Въпрос за Celica 2.0, 170 кс T20-1996-99г. с 5S-GE двигател

[havanero]

Здравейте колеги. Никъде в нета не намирам техническите характеристики на тази селика. Някой знае ли какви са разликите с двигателя, който е 175 к.с. и кой от двата е по-добър.

[Georgimitrovich]

5S

The 5S engine was essentially the same basic design as the 3S, but features a slightly increased bore and an increased stroke (87.1 x 90.9 mm). The total displacement was thus increased to 2.2 L (2,164 cc). It was only marketed in the American and Australian markets, and are used in the fifth and sixth generation Celica, the second generation MR2, the third and fourth generation Camry, as well as the first generation Camry Solara. Like the 3S, the 5S is of a non-interference design to prevent the pistons from striking the valves in case of a timing belt failure.
[edit]5S-FE


A 5S-FE Engine in a 1998 Toyota Celica GT
The 5S-FE was available in several variations each being distinguished by the valve cover design. The first gen, introduced in the 1990–1992 Celica GT/GT-S and MR2, had a power rating of 130 hp and 144 lbs-ft/torque. the second Gen was introduced in 1993 with the fifth Gen Celica ST184, and continued on throughout the sixth Gen Celica ST204. The second gen was also used in the MR2 (SW21) and Toyota Camry/Scepter (XV10) series and had a power output of 135 hp and 145 lbs-ft/torque. It had slightly less aggressive cams, no cold start injector, a knock sensor, and more aggressive tuning to give it slightly more power. In states that had adopted California state emissions the 5S-FE was rated at 130 hp and 145 lbs-ft/torque due mainly to emission equipment used in order to meet the emissions regulations of those states. The 3rd Gen was the last 5S-FE engine to be produced and was used in the 1997–2001 Camry XV20 and 1999–2001 Camry Solara, however 1996 models received a crank angle sensor instead of a cam angle sensor for a smoother idle. From 1997-1999 the engine produced 133 hp at 5,200 rpm and 147 lbs-ft/torque at 4,400 rpm. From 2000–2001, the engine received modest improvements to increase power output to 136 hp at 5,200 rpm and 150 lbs-ft/torque at 4,400 rpm. The 5S-FE was replaced in all applications by the 2.4l 2AZ-FE (Toyota AZ engine).
U.S.
California specification 1994-1996 5S-FEs in the Celica and Camry used air assisted, 250cc injectors, and sequential fuel injection for reduced emissions over the grouped (2+2) firing scheme. The 1994-1995 MR2 did NOT receive this change, nor did Camrys/Celicas in Federal emissions states.[citation needed]
Camry 5S-FEs have a counter-rotating balance shaft assembly to reduce noise, vibration, and harshness. They reduce the 2nd order vibrations common to 4-cylinder engines by spinning at two-times the crankshaft speed. The 1994-1999 Celica and 1991-1995 MR2 5S-FEs lack these balance shafts, so any 5S-FE engine with balance shafts likely came from a Camry.[citation needed]
In 1997, for the 4th generation Camry, the 5S-FE was updated for the last time. The engine received a direct ignition system with external camshaft and crankshaft sensors. This system used a wasted-spark setup, and the coils were complete with integrated igniters. The engine did not use a typical coil-on-plug setup, but rather two coil/igniter assemblies mounted near cylinder four, and provided spark via normal high-tension cords ("spark plug wires"). This change means that the 1997-2001 Camry 5S-FE no longer had a distributor mounting hole and could be used with older 5S-FEs without swapping the heads.[citation needed]
The 1997-1999 Camry 5S-FE continued with the air-assisted, 250cc injectors. The Camry 5S-FE also had a factory 4-to-1 header design - in Federal form, it had no pre-catalyst, although the California version did replace the collector design of the Federal version with a warm-up pre-catalyst for reduced cold start emissions.[citation needed]
For 2000 Toyota removed the air-assisted injectors and moved to superfine atomization (~50 micrometers), 12-hole, 235cc injectors manufactured by Denso. They are of a different design, and required a change in the cylinder head casting.[citation needed]
For 2001 Toyota started fitting factory MLS (multi-layered steel) head gaskets and other metal gaskets layered with Viton to engines, including the 5S-FE. MLS head gaskets require cylinder head and cylinder block resurfacing on older engines to ensure proper sealing. The MLS head gasket did not supersede the old composite head gasket. This is the reason why.[citation needed]
The 1994-1999 Celica 5S-FE was not updated with these changes, and continued to be driven by a distributor and the older electronic control system and injectors. Any used engine marked as a 1997-2001 Camry 5S-FE with a distributor is a Celica 5S-FE or older Camry 5S-FE.[citation needed]

Stats:
Engine:
2,164 cc four EFI DOHC

Horsepower:
1990–92 130 hp (97 kW) at 5,400 rpm
1993–96 135 hp (101 kW) at 5,400 rpm
1997–99 133 hp (99 kW) at 5,400 rpm
2000–01 136 hp (101 kW) at 5,400 rpm

Torque:
1990–92 144 ft·lb (195 N·m) at 4,400 rpm
1993–96 145 ft·lb (197 N·m) at 4,400 rpm
1997–99 147 ft·lb (199 N·m) at 4,400 rpm
2000–01 150 ft·lb (203 N·m) at 4,400 rpm

Bore:
87.1 mm (3.43 in)
Stroke:
90.9 mm (3.58 in)
Compression ratio:
9.5:1
Models with this engine:
ST204 (US Generation 6 Celica GT)
ST184 (US Generation 5 Celica GT, GT-S and SX. Australian Generation 5 Celica SX)
SW21 (US Generation 2 MR2 N/A)
SXV10 (Camry 1992–96)
SXV20 (Camry 1997–01)

[Georgimitrovich]

ta za koe to4no pita6 4e to 5S-FE e 2,2 a puk 3S-GE e 2,0 175 konq????

[Scott]

Здравейте колеги. Никъде в нета не намирам техническите характеристики на тази селика. Някой знае ли какви са разликите с двигателя, който е 175 к.с. и кой от двата е по-добър.

http://discodan.org/gfx/celica/servicem ... ine/em.pdf

[havanero]

Имам пред вид Селиката 2 литра, т.нар. фейслифт на 6-та генерация със 170 к.с. вместо 175 като например тази обява:
http://www.autoscout24.bg/Details.aspx?id=ltvl2kvvjxi4

[Georgimitrovich]

Generation 3
The third generation 3S-GE was produced from 1994 to 1999. Power output for the JDM was increased to 180 PS (132 kW) as the compression ratio was increased to 10.3:1, while motors for other markets received a minor revision in 1996 for emissions (EGR) which reduced power output slightly to 170 PS (125 kW) at 7,000 rpm. Torque remains the same for both at 19.5 kg·m (191 N·m).

[havanero]

Това означава ли че промяната е само в ЕCU--то и следователно може да се върнат старите настройки.

[Georgimitrovich]

тва значи че мотора е 170 коня, а само някой японски са 180 коня

[havanero]

Някъде пише ли колко е разхода на Селика с такъв двигател?

[kofarata]

на дълго сам може и 5

[SLADURA]

на дълго сам може и 5

едва ли ...
Градско при всички положения е по добре от новата селика ... и гори около 12л-14л в зависимост от задръстванията ...
Извън градско до 130км/ч - 8л ... над 130км/ч 10л ..

П.С. Успех с покупката - няма да съжаляваш с тази селика
P.S.S в ето този сайт http://www.6gc.net/information можеш да намериш много полезно инфо за колата ...

[havanero]

Благодаря за линка. По-принцип от това , което намерих в нета, оставам с впечатлението, че селиките със 170 к.с. двигател след фейслифта са по-малко харесвани от тези със 175 к.с. Някой лично правил ли е сравнение между двете модификации и какви са
впечатленията му?